Policing Post Floyd

We, in this second installment of considering the long term effects of George Floyd’s murder, will focus on police. 

Not only the police department which housed, and at least initially, covered and succored ex-officer Chauvin, but police departments in general; how they have evolved over time, the sometimes yawning divide between their stated mission and the unspoken, yet so often brutally enforced mission; what policing looks like depending on zip code. How the origins of the modern day police force still hold influence in how police see their role and do their jobs. Who the police protect and serve–and who they control and contain. 

The above considerations are important. Police, in its modern iteration in this country, have origins in slave patrols. That function has technically been laid to rest; after all, technically there are no more slaves in America. 

It is useful though to look at the three functions of slave patrols, and to then pivot and look at how they play out, albeit in a (slightly) diluted form, in the present day. 

Somewhat surprisingly, the National Law Enforcement Museum gives us a good definition; surprisingly, because the Museum is not a place to go for pointed critique on the police; rather, it is a memorial and an ode to policing in America. I chose this source for this very reason. No wild eyed shouting here. But the Museum appreciates the need to acknowledge the origins of the institution they celebrate; they understand that to fail to do so undermines what they contend are the good that police do now–that in order to honor the institution today, it is important that the public know what was. Depending on your perspective, it is an evolution (if one endorses the ideal) or a form of mission drift (if one looks at how the influence still plays out).

And what was, was horrific. The Museum’s website has a blog post that speaks to policing’s unsavory past. Quoting historian Gary Potter, the functions of slave patrols were to:

“(1) to chase down, apprehend, and return to their owners, runaway slaves; (2) to provide a form of organized terror to deter slave revolts; and, (3) to maintain a form of discipline for slave-workers who were subject to summary justice, outside the law.”

What is not mentioned, but is plain in the white spaces between the words of the quote, their main function was terror; to intimidate and control not just those who either attempted escape, but also, and crucially for our purposes of 21st century anti-racist praxis, to control and punish those who, in conscience, tangibly resisted by aiding the escaped enslaved, or in other ways providing allyship and succor. This served to curb the conscience of would-be white allies, as noted in a piece in the American Bar Association, where author Connie Hasset-Walker notes:

Without warrant or permission, slave patrols could enter the home of anyone—Black or white—suspected of sheltering escaped slaves. (In modern times, this would be a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment and constitute an illegal search.) After the Civil War ended, the slave patrols developed into southern police departments. Part of the early police’s post–Civil War duties was to monitor the behavior of newly freed slaves, many of whom, if not given their own land, ended up working on plantations owned by whites and to enforce segregation policies as per the era’s new Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.

These two functions: control and containment of freedom for Black people, enforced even after the putative end of slavery by Black Codes and later Jim Crow, and harsh consequences for those white people who would critique and resist, echo still. 

This state sanctioned terror was not confined south of the Mason-Dixon line. Slave patrols, and individual bounty hunters could and did venture north to apprehend slaveholders’ property and return them to shackles. Later, it morphed to enforce the Black Codes and Jim Crow by keeping sharecroppers on land, and buttressing the power of white land owners, as well as enforcing debt incurred by sharecroppers, and by enforcing a ‘way of life’ that depended on subjugation and oppression. 

Modern police forces still often have the DNA of slave patrols, and their morphed post-slavery counterparts. 

The idea of people as property morphed into property rights over people; most specifically a specific cohort of people. 

Coming back to the here and now, it is instructive to look at how the three purposes of slave patrols have morphed, and as well, to consider how quashing of dissent and action played out and still inhibits white action in service to conscience and morals.

In modern day, the three principles can be thought of thusly: 

  • The prison complex, which hearkens to a specific carveout of the 13th amendment, which specifically excluded prisoners. Michelle Alexander, in her definitive book, “The New Jim Crow” , speaks to this well; how mass incarceration of Black (and brown) people have led to a shapeshifted form of slavery. This includes what happens after the incarcerated are ‘freed’; parole; loss of voting rights and other rights of citizenry and other limits, makes for a provisional and truncated form of humanity in the states’ eyes.
  • Organized terror, where there are two sets of ‘acceptable behavior’ on the part of the police, one of the most blatant and sickening of which resulted in the death of George Floyd. 
  • Which leads us to the law itself; how it is selectively applied and enforced; the draconian measures of ‘three strikes’ which could go back decades, and gang enhancements which serve to exacerbate the above two.

All three of the above dynamics conflated in the case of Mr. Floyd, particularly the ‘right’ of police to be more harsh with (at least at first) less accountability. 

But.

 The police cannot control and contain Black and bodies physically without also controlling and containing white minds, attitudes, and fears. As seen above, often times the fear, real or imagined, of consequences possibly incurred if white people, either individually collectively, question, critique, or take action–whether it be stepping in using their own bodies to protect (almost never happens) to whipping out their phones, or even calling legislators and policymakers to demand change–the modern day equivalent of being a ‘safe house’ is inhibited and discouraged. The media takes a role in this, in how it covers both police and the neighborhoods the media are often demonizing, which provides cover and protection for abuse. 

Liberation must happen–both in terms of the physical and, crucially, the emotional and the mindsets of those who observe. 

Absent this, the ‘aberration’ of Floyd, which wasn’t actually, will continue. With our collusion. 

Queries:

  • Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?
  • Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?
  • What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?
  • What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities?
  • How do we hold communities well without the boot?

Join us in the Bistro Discussion below

Lace on Race Forums Policing Post Floyd

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  • #10170

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    I am more familiar now with the history of policing, but that’s only been over the course of the past few years. It does shift my perceptions knowing the history of policing. How and why things are created is so important, and as hard as we have tried to distance and run from that, we can’t change that was it’s intentional initial purpose. We can’t ‘rebirth’ or repackage something that’s already been born, we need something different and new altogether.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    I previously bought hook line and sinker into the narrative that police are only ever there to ‘protect and serve,’ which in turn was most reflective of my privileged stance that ‘I deserve to be served and protected,’ (aka, they’re there ‘for me’, yikes). I grew up with an (abusive) pastor-turned-deputy father, and now am married to a LE officer. I have seen more up close the internal wrestlings of these two narratives inside of them. I am no longer in relationship with my father as all of him emulated the ‘control and contain’. Sometimes these conversations have torn at the fabric of my partnership, and there have been challenging moments. Some people of color may never feel safe with me knowing I’m in relationship with my spouse, and I have to acknowledge that. I love him dearly, and it’s also one of the most important charges and opportunities for me in my life to stay in the car and lean into those challenging conversations, and speak eye to eye, always pivoting to racial and social justice. I had one of those very conversations this evening, in fact.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    As a person who struggles with anxiety, this is an area I really have to pay attention, because easily in my life I have drifted as a result of that trauma/anxiety towards narratives and assumptions that harm is intended when it’s not. I have come a long way, but it’s something I have to continue to harness and wrestle with. In the field I work, in mental health, I have seen myself shift the most over the years in relationship to this. Early in my career I felt police involvement was necessary in acute crises situations, to ‘control’ when things were out of control. I quickly grew to see that people showing up with guns strapped on often just escalate or further traumatize an individual terribly. I have learned the majority of the time when people are doing or saying scary things it’s because they are vulnerable themselves, are in pain themselves, not seeking to inflict pain elsewhere. Approaching individuals that way is paradigm shift. There are still moments when adrenaline and biological process get pumping or fight/flight kicks in and that’s when I have to be the most aware, slow down, breathe, and pay attention to my assumptions and responses.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    For me there is an internal and external element to this. There’s the work I must do inside myself, then the work in my household, then the work in my community to keep racial and social justice front and center. Also supporting, and financially contributing to the organizations in my community doing this work, keeping myself aware of and up to date with that work. Speaking up at work, using my influence and agency there to demand change.

    • #10191

      Reading your response I was thinking about how the first time I realized that police did not mean serving and protecting to everyone was when I was a young adult and I was at a arts and crafts festival with my partner and a (white) girl who was a friend of the family and who had recently been adopted (previously a foster child). We were walking around the village enjoying the festival and we came upon the police station where police officers were outside handing cookies to children presumably to make a good relationship with the children at the festival. The girl we were with took one look at them and then took off running top speed away, away, away. We ran after her and eventually caught up with her and everyone was safe, but the police had taken her mother away and taken her and her sister away from her mother so there was nothing about the police that meant serving and protecting to her.

      • #10198

        Poor thing, that’s heart breaking. I’m thinking how Black and Brown parents have to teach their children not to run from police, to stand their ground, act calm, compliant, respectful, and how hard that is to do when adrenaline and the fight/flight is pumping not knowing what to expect next.

      • #10201

        Thank you for your extending thoughts here. I hadn’t gotten as far as being taught not to run when everything in your body and all your brain chemistry from flight mode is telling you to run run run like that white girl ran. I am thinking back to medical racism again and how all those flight/stress chemicals in the brain with no where to go (running expends some of them) must also affect the physical health of the person.

      • #10216

        Yes, chronic adrenaline exposure can lead to all sorts of things like high blood pressure, heart attack, stroke. Diseases that people are often stigmatized and victim blamed for somehow developing themselves due to poor diet/exercise, when it can be a side effect of long term systemic trauma.

    • #10363

      Are you able to share more of the conversations you have with your family? I don’t have any LEOs among my family or close friends and am imagining the amount of hesed and eye to eye relationship needed to have those conversations. That said, there are many professions built around inequality. Hell, I work in international development as does my husband. We have similar perceptions of the work (though we’re sometimes on different slashes of the topic as I’m international staff and he’s local). But those are conversations we should be having more often (and I admire you for having them with your husband). For example, his org has recently begun a poverty porn campaign. We’ve spoken about why we disagree about it, but we haven’t spoken about how he can speak against it at work. I commit to starting that conversation.

      • #10369

        Sure, I had one of those conversations tonight. After dinner we were talking about the recent detainment of 3 men in our county by border patrol. I brought up the topic and then leaned into it further. Sometimes these conversations end with my spouse feeling disrespected and his personhood attacked. I’m getting better at how I approach them, and the calm with which I do. I still strive to ask better questions instead of making my case like an attorney in front of a jury which does a fabulous job of closing conversation down, not opening it up. All the losing strategies end up showing up from both of us in those versions. This conversation went well and we ended up in agreement. Not all conversations go that way. Your last point also very much rings true. Just talking about things is only part of the deal. Action was missing from my conversation tonight. There’s always more rub in those conversations. We didn’t talk about the ‘then what do we do about it’ part, just agreed it was wrong. There have been actions that I have taken that my spouse doesn’t participate in (and visa versa).

      • #10392

        Thank you for the reminder of asking better questions. I tend to prosecution/jury convincing all too easily and that’s not an effective strategy and is antithetical to relationship.

    • #10372

      Julia Tayler
      Member

      I’m impressed that you can have those conversations with your husband. My husband’s long-time job was police adjacent (radio’s for the sheriff’s dept) and he is pro police and won’t hear anything different. It’s been a real challenge for us.

      • #10375

        Staying in the car in those conversations can be difficult, and I’m thankful to be here walking in community together as we continue to work on that. There have been times where I have a particularly challenging conversation and I hold my breath and wonder if our differences can still be contained in a loving embrace. They have been, but there have been some tough moments. I have found the importance of holding my own hand well in the midst of those conversations, and that feels like a key part for me. I sometimes imagine others from this community sitting with me in those conversations. How do you steady yourself in those tough conversations the most?

      • #10402

        Julia Tayler
        Member

        Unfortunately I haven’t been steadying myself. I get angry and he gets angry and we stop talking about it. I need to work on holding my own hand (like you said – that was helpful) and try not to punch down or up. I also appreciate the idea of thinking that my fellow walkers are with me. I think I’ll borrow that one too.

  • #10189

    Shara Cody
    Member

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions? This post reminds me that systems are never really dismantled and are just twisted and converted by those in power. Although since joining LoR I had learned that police began as slave patrols in the US, Lace’s explanation of the 3 ways the function of slave patrols persist today cemented the connection and deepened my opinion that the police system needs to be dismantled and recreated. History and how it influences or remains today matters. Being able to connect these details helps see the underlying purpose rather than just the stated purpose in order to see the truth and to create real change.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live? I think because I live in a small place that “protect and serve” might apply most to businesses which are concentrated in the downtown area. That would lend to protection for business owners and tourists because our economy is based around summer tourism so protecting capitalism is the main purpose. I think “control and contain” is seen in “monitoring” of lower income neighborhoods which also overlaps with the downtown area. Monitoring sends the message that this is an area with risk of criminals or violence. Both of these ways that police are asked to apply enforcement perpetuate racism because one of racism’s main impacts is economic oppression; fewer POC are business owners and POC disproportionality live in lower income neighborhoods. Also, because these areas overlap, POC live with higher police presence.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence? I think I have all of the biases that the general public has within me to varying degrees because I’ve received the messaging of white supremacy my whole life. This means I could select any bias within me to justify actions of law enforcement to let me feel comfortable with being silent. One of the fears I have is of gangs because they’re publicized in the news and in movies which means I’m highly likely to support or be silent on the worst actions of law enforcement to gangs. Gangs are usually depicted as racialized people as well as connected to certain areas or neighborhoods which makes it likely for me to fear those people and areas because of that association. If I dig deeper into that, I think fear of groups working together is seen as dangerous. Going further, groups I don’t belong to and maybe especially can’t belong to, are at least suspect or can’t be trusted and all of these beliefs and fears encourage me as a white woman to see BIPOC as criminals.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? I have to continue to actively identify these biases within myself to challenge my own thinking/feelings/reactions so I don’t act from and live by fear and bias. This means taking the time to do research and talk to people (the people affected or accused) to understand issues and situations instead of just absorbing the messaging I hear. I think it’s important to step back and consider who is saying what or who is acting to help identify distortions that will influence me more easily because I’m white. Working through biases and distortions in the community of LoR helps me see more than I would on my own and also keeps me moving. Living this out I have to keep focusing on seeing every person as a human being and giving of myself to make the world safer for BIPOC.

    How do we hold communities well without the boot? Ensure everyone has their basic needs met with well funded social systems. By providing support and connection instead of enforcement, we can build communities based on all people instead of systems based on power.

    • #10296

      Your speaking of gangs reminds me of something I learned from a post a while back on the LoR facebook page re: how LE use defining things as a gang to go at them with more force. I’d not considered that before. I remember a youth from that piece talking about how they would get frisked every day coming home from school because they met the current going definition of what a ‘gang’ looked like to the gang task force. I wonder what would happen if I code switched right back and instead of calling something a gang called it a family.

      • #10309

        Shara Cody
        Member

        I thought of that post on gangs as I worked through the question (although I couldn’t find it to read again). Labelling POC gang members is one way the police justify using “control and contain” and also murder of adults and kids. That messaging keeps the public (white people like me) scared and silent. Reframing gangs as families with needs sounds like one way to disrupt that messaging within me.

      • #10316

        I’ve only scratched the surface of all the words used that way in white supremacy as tools to that end. All learning and walking together 🙂

      • #10323

        Shara Cody
        Member

        I’ve seen the way naming things is so important and I’m glad to be learning with you too, Rebecca.

    • #10364

      This: “Living this out I have to keep focusing on seeing every person as a human being and giving of myself to make the world safer for BIPOC.”

      We’ve spoken about it a lot at LoR about how white folk are afforded the option to be seen as individuals whereas bipoc are seen as the collective. Like you, I’m learning and practicing here how to deconstruct that. I think your reframing of gangs is a perfect example.

  • #10190

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    I have heard this before. Reading this piece by Lace makes specific parallels between slave patrolling and modern policing more clear. I am thinking particularly about the role of slave patrols in terrorism to deter revolts. Our criminal justice system in the US, law enforcement and punishment of those seen as criminals or potential criminals, is highly driven by the idea of deterrent through fear rather than curbing crime by meeting people’s needs.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    In my neighborhood, the police (other than those who live here) are here if someone has invited them here either to file a police report or to drive by a house where people are on vacation and have requested drive bys. They are never here uninvited for speed traps or otherwise uninvited patrolling. I see their presence in other parts of town much more, in poorer areas with higher nonwhite populations. I see them standing over unhoused people or otherwise talking to people who are not in their cars on the side of the street. I see this most close to the main street of the city even where it is not close to the central business district.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    I think my greatest fears of people probably lie with the safety of children, meaning like pedaphiles and child trafficking etc. Other than that, in recent years I have felt fear of armed white supremacist militia-type people (extralegal post civil war continuation of slave patrols is how they are described in the blog post linked to in Lace’s article) and I am hearing that these groups are meant to create fear in white allies as well as in Black and brown people. Since I know the police are the white supremacist militia-type people are often the same people, I am most likely to call on and endorse militarism if I perceive a threat to children than in other situations. And I have to recognize that I am more afraid of a threat to my own children than to other people’s children.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    The reality is that the threat to my own children from pedaphiles and child traffickers is pretty low. Almost all of the amber alerts that come to my phone are for indigenous children or latinX children. When I was teaching preschool in my home, the state regularly sent me sex offender registry lists and I knew where several lived in my own neighborhood and they were all white men. Reminding myself of these things can combat potential distortions of mine that might lead to harm of Black and brown people. Since I am raising children and there are so many societal messages about who to fear, I must be finding ways to disrupt those messages. We hold communities well by meeting needs to curb unwanted behavior. We do not use fear as a deterrent.

    • #10218

      your use of the word invitation stands out to me. That’s just the thing about power and control, that it never asks anything, always assumes and takes. Imagine what intervention could be like were it to always be accompanied by an invitation.

      • #10251

        I am realizing there are boundaries that accompany an invitation, even though they are not overt.

      • #10289

        Shara Cody
        Member

        Hi Emily, can you tell me more about what you mean when you say “boundaries that accompany an invitation”? I’m not sure I’m understanding.

      • #10302

        Whether I say “Come into my house” or “Don’t come into my house”, either way I am stating “There is a boundary here and my voice is a deciding factor”. It could be a boundary that is not physical too, if I invite advice or critique for example. It is implied that withdrawing the invitation is also a power held.

  • #10199

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions? It does. I have always connected policing to property and wealth — which is exactly how enslaved people were characterized. I know they weren’t property, but that’s how they were treated and so law enforcement to protect property would create slave patrols.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live? In my county, this is closely tied to race and poverty. In my own unincorporated town, there is only one place where there is policing – the unhoused community along the freeway.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence? I have all the white fears and the woman fears. I also have fears of law enforcement and what would happen to me if I tried to intervene.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? One thing I do is deliberate cognitive retraining of my encultured reactions, talking myself out of fears and talking myself through responses, so that neither inhibits me from right action. I can’t continue to be irresponsible and inhumane.

    How do we hold communities well without the boot? I think by wrapping communities in a warm patchwork quilt of systems that are stronger together. All the money that is spent on the boot, turned instead toward helping and healing.

  • #10250

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    Never more so than in reading how you connected the original slave patrols to todays policing. It was only in the last year or so that I realized that the framework undergirding policing in this country evolved from slave patrols. It’s amazing to me that the blog post on the National Law Enforcement Museum says as much. It helps me realize what a privilege is it to consider police a friendly presence and not a threatening one.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    Most of the control is exerted over the unhoused population where I live. In my small town, we have only one police station and it’s on one end of the main surface street through town. I know police spend a lot of time walking around the downtown areas near the creek and park where the unhoused population tends to congregate. They periodically do “clean ups” of the creek area to push out the people who camp down there.

    Like someone said above, my interactions with police have almost always been by way of my invitation. I have a couple of friends in law enforcement who strongly feel that they are the thin blue line protecting me from some kind of chaos, crime, or anarchy. But I have never looked at that way, either. If I need the police, I can call them (2-3 times in my lifetime and even then it was because someone’s house was on fire, or someone fell of a bike, or my neighbor was selling drugs, not because I was in danger), but if I don’t, I rarely see them. I almost never feel any sense of threat from which I need protecting. It’s kind of strange-like the actual threat level to me is very small most of the time, but some LEO have a need to believe that it’s much bigger than I know (because I’m blind? because they do such a great job?) and they have to protect me from it. I see how this concept springs directly from the slave patrol aspect of policing. On the other hand, BIPOC have good reason to fear LEO and not trust them-not invite them. Yet that’s where we can count on finding them.


    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    I have been lucky enough to always live in places that are pretty low-crime. But I have been to bigger cities and still felt safe. The one time I called LE on a neighbor was when I suspected they were selling drugs. Cars coming and going at all hours. I had a new baby and I was awake so I saw what was going on. The neighbors were pretty nice. Stuck to themselves mostly, but were sure to tell me when they ran over a tarantula to protect my 4 year-old. Even gave him a toy truck as a gift. But we were in a very remote area, renting mobile homes on a large ranch. I called the sheriff and gave them license plate numbers and descriptions of cars and people (all known to the sheriff’s office as drug dealers and users) and they arrested the guy on his way home from work one day. There was a girlfriend and a baby living there that I didn’t even know about. I was more frightened when they arrested them then at any other time. But the landlord was grateful. I kind of enjoyed doing the detective work and feeling like Nancy Drew or something, but I am rethinking that now. Would I do anything differently if this happened again? Maybe. But I’m not sure.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    Just the phrase, “collective responsibilities” feels loaded with meaning. Do we even agree, as a society, what our collective responsibilities toward each other are? If not, what are my obligations as a moral, ethical person? I am obligated to try to build the world I want to see. I must do more to reach out, to find and succor the lost ones, the marginalized, the outcasts. We can do so much better than simply punish those who don’t conform. This seems obvious as a parent, but perhaps it doesn’t expand outward as well as I imagine.

    I must articulate the world I want to see. I must find those who share that vision. We must work together to bring it to pass.

    • #10288

      Shara Cody
      Member

      Vicki, I appreciate the way you focused on the collective responsibility including articulating the world you want to see and finding others who share that vision in order to take action collectively. It’s amazing how saying what we want to see and who we want to be is a big part of finding others who share that vision. Since joining LoR and people seeing my comments on FB, I’ve had quite a few people initiate conversations with me about race. Doing this work in public draws those people in so that we find each other.

      • #10655

        So true. It also allows those who might disagree with what I am doing to see it. Sometimes I get flak for things I post or comments I make about racism. But I also find others who are curious, or who add to my understanding. It’s just hard that it’s all the result of doing the work. I never appreciate the negative responses, but they have also helped me hone my skills.

  • #10324

    “The police cannot control and contain Black and bodies physically without also controlling and containing white minds, attitudes, and fears.” I am committed to undoing the conditioning of manipulation.

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    Yes, this was a huge shift for me to understand the history and evolution of police forces. I first learned of this when doing some reading after having conversations with a friend about abolishing the police (I position I could not at that time understand). Since then I’ve learned more, including about a court case that claimed police are not duty-bound to protect and serve. I still have those clenches around “but don’t we need police to catch mass murderers??” but I can now identify the flawed logic and the manipulated emotion within that. I used to work for a small claims attorney when I was in high school – we used warrants to collect on medical debt. Think also of the Fergusen report. Or police using forced stops for traffic violations. That’s the majority of their work. And it’s targeted.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    So, this is a hard one for me to answer because I haven’t lived in the US for 10 years. Where I live no one trusts the police. Police have power and that power is led around by bribes. If I think back to the US, I unfortunately wasn’t paying attention to these issues while I lived there (I left at 22) and didn’t have any interactions with the police. But we did have school resource officers, a practice I can now understand as problematic at best.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    I grew up in a suburban community formed from white flight out of Gary and Chicago. My sophomore year of high school another student had a psychotic break and attacked his class with a machete. The media liked to describe our town as “20 minutes from Gary” as if that implied greater danger and an understanding to the violence that had happened. I remember buying into that same fear when I was younger, about driving faster through Gary or thinking again about where to stop for gas in Detroit. Even the fact that I can type just these city names and people understand the context…. that’s a problem. It’s how we’ve all been conditioned by the media to hold fears of BIPOC. That fear leads to support for LEOs.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities?

    To call it out and learn the facts. There are many dog whistles we don’t even recognize anymore because they’re so common and feel so logical/factual. Except they’re not. As a midwesterner, the common whistles will revolve around Detroit, Chicago, and Gary. So it’s on me to learn the actual facts about LEOs and the people in those communities. To humanize. I joined Peace Corps because I wanted to bring the stories of the “Other” to my homogenous community in the US, to bridge a gap of fear and misunderstanding through bringing those communities to very personal light. That same needs to be done within our own state and national boundaries.


    How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    My friend just posted some photos one of which was a bedsheet banner hung from her front porch, reading “Strong communities make police obsolete.” Strong communities require the relational. Require that we see one another eye-to-eye. Require equitable justice and ensuring the healthy lives of all our community members. Our laws are not built with that in mind, so the communities must take that on themselves.


    • #10373

      Julia Tayler
      Member

      Good point about just mentioning some cities names and we think of violence or fear. Detroit, Chicago, Gary. That’s problematic and probably on purpose. Making us scared so we will want the police to use any means necessary.

      Also, the coming together of communities. That would be amazing but I think we have a long way to go for that.

  • #10374

    Julia Tayler
    Member

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions? Yes it does. It really makes me think about all of our systems and how antiquated they can be.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    I live in a tourist town. The police try to keep downtown clear of unhoused people and safe for tourists. I say try because our unhoused population has grown a lot and downtown seems to be a place that a lot of them end up. Over the years we have had a strong patrol presence throughout the city. As evidence by the tickets I may or may not have for speeding.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    Someone else mentioned the way I feel too. I have the same white women fears most people do. I’m not great with strangers and get anxious.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities? I have to work hard in my community to make sure the police are held responsible for their misbehavior and biases. I have to keep my ears and eyes open and pay attention. Our city tends to be a little redneck and very pro police.

    How do we hold communities well without the boot? By engaging and watching out for each other. Caring about your neighbors and knowing exactly who they are so you don’t call the police on your neighbor thinking they don’t belong. By having the hard conversations.

  • #10407

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    It does in the sense that, like so much of our social institutions, the original purpose must have impacted it over time in lasting ways. That history adds important context to the institution in its current form, and what public safety systems could actually mean if they were re-imagined.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?

    I’m aware of local police intervening in active situations where someone was harming multiple people, and acted protectively. There has also been discriminatory collection of personal information, misconduct and past and recent use of force against Black, brown, and First Nations and Inuit people. There are also reports of increased police presence in low-income and racialized neighbourhoods.<strike> </strike>

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    A lot of my fears are around physical/bodily safety and about losing material safety (housing, employment, etc.). I need to learn to distinguish between my actual safety and my comfort and investigate where that line is.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities?

    I can learn what the common distortions are, and how they’re used, and about different models of community safety. I can contact my representatives about police funding and accountability. I can get to know my neighbours better and financially engage with local community organizations that provide people with necessities.

    How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    Resourcing always seems like a place to start. Approach communities with respect. Ask what is needed and wanted if that hasn’t already been expressed. Support community leaders with resources to create the conditions to meet people’s needs – for food, housing, medical care, and employment. Look out for our neighbours.

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    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions? Yes, I see those on the police force as members of the caste system. Above black and brown people that are not on the police force and below people who did not have to take a job to as a police officer

    I think the question of ‘protect and serve’ vs. ‘control and contain’ is a both and. When I am living in my caste of being a more supreme white person, going out to a fancy restaurant, they are there to protect and serve me. When I am going to a concert in a rich neighborhood, they are there to contain and control me. Pivoting more clearly to race, they are there, on the street corners to remind me to be scared.

  • #10502

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence? Funny, how my answer to this question has changed. I still don’t like my answer, but it has changed. My fear of the ‘other’ is them. The police. I am really afraid of them of how I felt in BLM plaza in DC. So, when they are around, I am compliant. Quiet. I don’t like this answer, but it is the truth. I believe that what they do every day, what they have been trained to do, to be, is part of their cells, and I am afraid of it. More afraid of that than the politicians or the rich white supremacists. It seems deeper somehow.

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    Meg Hanebutt

    Does the knowledge that modern policing has been informed by slave patrols inform your perceptions?

    Yes, definitely. I like how you (Lace) point out that it is either evolution or mission drift, depending on the perspective of the reader. Either way, it’s the museum’s attempt at making a thing that has roots in racism, slavery, and white supremacy, marginally less racist and white supremacist. In order for it to continue to do the thing that it was always meant to do. The Museum’s own mission states that its purpose is to “ and make it safer for those who serve,” not to make it safer for those they are meant to protect. It also says it’s meant to “help strengthen relationships between law enforcement and the communities they serve.” After centuries of killing Black and brown community members, they’re going to need more than a museum and a website to do that. I’m starting to understand that there is no real way to make policing anti-racist, only marginally less racist, and therefore defunding or improving it isn’t the answer; abolishing the system and replacing it with well-funded, well-organized systems of nurturing is the only answer.

    Where, in your own areas, are police actually charged to ‘protect and serve’? Where does the unspoken, yet enforced ‘control and contain’ occur where you live?
    I live in the outer avenues of San Francisco which is much more rural and less Black and brown. I hear calls from neighbors on social media for police and the city to protect our cars and mailboxes from getting broken into. Protect and serve in this case is applied when there is white and white-adjacent discomfort; in the tenderloin and the Mission districts (historically and predominantly more Black and brown) the calls are for the police to “sweep the streets” of houseless folks and drugs. Again, to protect white comfort when people are traveling or walking through certain neighborhoods in our city.

    What fears do you have of people, of neighborhoods, of The Other might you have that allows you to, if not endorse the worst actions of law enforcement, render reticence or even silence?

    When I walk through certain neighborhoods I lock my doors unconsciously. Sometimes I have my bag or wallet sitting on my passenger seat with the window down and then when I realize I’m in certain Black and brown neighborhoods (especially those with reputations of drug use, crime, and houselessness) I panic and roll up my window or move my wallet.

    What can you do in the face of distortions to acknowledge and then live out our collective responsibilities?
    When I encounter Black and brown folks on the streets, especially those that are poor or houseless, I can make a point to look them in the eyes rather than looking away in order to acknowledge shared humanity. When I hear on the news stories that seem to skew toward Black crime or Black riots, I can counter that narrative to whoever is in the room. When I hear regurgitated tropes and blanket statements about Black and brown communities, I can challenge them.

    How do we hold communities well without the boot?

    Funding. Organization. Systems and structures of wellness, nurturing, and love. Resources.

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