A Letter to Lurkers: The Flexes of Whiteness, and Yes, That Means You

This is to you lurkers. You’re here to learn. You think there’s good stuff. But engaging per the Guidelines is just not for you. It’s too scary, it’s too hard, you’re not ready, you’re too busy, or maybe you just straight up don’t wanna. You know enough. You do enough. Reading is enough. You’re getting all you need. Well, let me tell you, you may be getting all you care about, but whether it’s all you need is another matter, and all that is vital for you to reduce and mitigate the harm perpetuated upon Black and brown people, perpetrated by white people like me, and like you… if all you’re doing here is lurking, you are nowhere close to getting that.

I’m here to help us count the ways.

For a while, Lace took to Twitter, and while it hasn’t been a big part of our online presence since the first flurry, we’re looking into ways to leverage new tools for better outreach, and Twitter might just be one of them. I’m personally chagrined, because I both intensely dislike, and don’t at all get, Twitter. I imagine the two are related. But, hey, I’m an admin, and if this space makes a foray into the Twitterverse, I need to keep up! So over the course of a week or so, back during the TCL mishegoss, Lace, myself, and a couple of other walkers here encountered someone on Twitter on a thread about TCL’s new funding model. You know. The one involving “sustaining” that they put out, after weeks of lurking, perhaps it’s fair to even say snooping, around Lace on Race, where we’ve discussed having sustainer-focused financial engagement for over a year. It’s a common enough term of the art, but isn’t it interesting that, only after bashing Lace as a “cult leader” and various folks telling us how deluded we are, TCL would say, “We need everyone who finds value in The Christian Left to step forward and become a sustainer. Here’s how…”

So Lace brought it up, as a newly minted Tweeter, quoting that TCL Tweet and, saying, “This language of Sustainers is my own. Absolutely appropriated from Lace on Race. Heinous, this: looting a funding model they vilified me for, calling me an opportunistic cult leader. But our funding model is worth stealing. Got it.”

Now, I know you’ve been lurking, so maybe you’ve missed a bit. The less you engage, the less Facebook pushes to your feed, so if you’re not coming to the page intentionally, you’re definitely missing large chunks. But this is something we’ve been talking about here, and you’ll find it with some poking around. There is an awful lot to this TCL story. Too much to go into now. So, back to Twitter. Well, someone who calls themselves “Truth to Power” piped up on Lace’s post. Screenshots of the full conversations are posted down below, but here I’m going to try to present the key parts of the conversation AS a conversation.

So Truth to Power responded, “hey there, lace! Can you please clarify what you mean about the language of sustainers being your own? A Google search verified it as a pretty common fundraising tool name.”

“Well…” you might be saying, “that… seems like a fair question?” I’m going to stop you right there. Here’s where the flexes of whiteness start coming into it. Lace has talked about where particular individuals have flexed on her, but what I need y’all to understand up front is that flexes of whiteness aren’t behaviors confined to particular bad actors, who may or may not where robes and carry torches. All of us flex. Flexes are a power move rooted in the power over that we white people carry innately as part of a society structured around white supremacy. These flexes are patterns with us. Charles Toy exhibited the same flexes as Jim Golden when they first entered Lace on Race. They employed different tones, but used the exact same flex upon entry.

But back to Truth to Power’s first flex. We’ll call it Flex #1: We twist ourselves six ways from Sunday to avoid just BELIEVING BLACK PEOPLE. Every single one of us wants our “fair question” to be perfectly framed in an objectively rational vacuum. We want unimpeachable evidence, and even then, we want to see benefit of the doubt extended. Why isn’t this a fair question from an individual who should be assumed to be an innocent actor until proven guilty? Because it’s not fair, it’s not isolated, and it’s never innocent.

How can I possibly know? Look, in bringing up the question, Truth to Power is making the assumption that Lace HAS SOMEHOW NOT NOTICED that the term she uses, at this stage of her decades of activism, is common in fundraising circles. The question as framed presupposes SOME failing on Lace’s part. Either she lacks honesty, or she lacks pretty basic knowledge, available on Google. This question is not fair. It shows a very fundamental inclination to disbelieve Black people, and to take it to my next point, that’s not isolated. This is why I say flexes of our power are patterns, not isolated incidents. How many times have you heard a story told by a Black person about racism, exploitation, or appropriation they have experienced, and you try to explain it away? That’s Flex #1. I know that I have done it. I have tried to explain away my OWN racism. I feel certain that many of you have done it, too, and many of you have seen it done, and many of you have felt the temptation to it. And maybe you feel like your particular insight is particularly insightful, and if your Black friend would just believe you on this, they would feel better about what has happened to them. 

But would they? Because haven’t you just replaced feeling like a target of racism to feeling like a paranoiac? How is that… better? Maybe what would make them feel better would be you believing them, without question. What trying to convince them it isn’t racism does is make YOU and ME feel better. If those honest questions aren’t racist, then neither are we for thinking they have merit. If we can still be innocently in the dark about the ways things are racist, then we can still be forgiven for the ways we are racist, because we just didn’t know, and we never meant it. But shouldn’t we know by now? Shouldn’t we know at least enough to BELIEVE BLACK PEOPLE? 

This is what I mean by saying this question was not fair, not isolated, and not innocent. This is what I mean by being part of a pattern. Because every Black person who dares to speak about the racism they experience has a hundred or so of us dismissing that conclusion, either to ourselves, or to their face. Black people get dismissed on the daily. They know it when it’s happening. We are not unique individual actors in this. This is Flex #1.

Lace explained, “To lessen and mitigate the harm [endured] by black and brown people perpetuated by white people. Most emphatically including the Christian left. But please by all means continue to enable them. I don’t know if you don’t get the distinction, or if you get the distinction and are dismissing it, or if you just wanted to foment a fake sense of outrage and sealioning. Or it’s just okay with you, this appropriation of intellectual Capital by white people. So yes, I do have a problem white supremacist men using a model honed by a black woman who they have vilified and dehumanized. I know that you feel like you’re creating some sort of a gotcha moment. You aren’t. No I did not invent the word sustainer, but I did create pretty much the exact same funding model, except for the fact that they stripped the relational from it that they are touting.”

Truth to Power responded, “I certainly don’t feel that way. I knew the word from a fundraising professional background, so I asked for clarification.”

Here we hit Flex #2: we white people will always flex professionally. We will credential ourselves. We will cite our authority. But… I hear you asking… if we’re going to ask a question within a specific field, shouldn’t we, like, be clear if we have knowledge, and have a right to question what we’re told? Ahhhh, so we’ll look at two things. First, a close look at how Truth to Power is fitting into Flex #2, and then, how we are in defining what gives us our “right” to question.

“I knew that word from a fundraising professional background…” notice the shift? It’s gone from, hey lace, I looked this up on Google to I have a fundraising background. And more. I have a fundraising professional background. Not only am I knowledgeable in this field too, this says, but I’ve been PAID to be knowledgeable about it, is the implication. And that speaks volumes to what exactly white people, as a whole, value, and see as confirming authority, the “right” to question. Experience, okay, yes, but also… MONEY. We know, intellectually, that many people are paid well to do jobs they’re bad at (hello Peter Principle), and that many incredibly skilled people don’t get paid much if anything for their craft (like most construction workers and farm laborers). 

In fact, let’s call that Flex #3: we white people value people and objects in direct proportion to how much money they’re “worth”. And here’s another particular point for you lurkers to ponder. Maybe you *do*agree with TCL in some regards. Maybe you *do* think Lace’s asks are kind of crass, and that you can get plenty out of Lace on Race for free, so why should you pay, any more than you should comment? Y’all. There are so many reasons Lace deserves to be compensated for the immense quantity and quality of work she does here for your benefit. But skipping that, I’m going to point right to Flex #3. Part of why you are lurking, and not fully utilizing and valuing this space… is because you don’t have to pay for it. This is why we call it “financial engagement” and not “donations” or “fundraising”. Because putting your skin in the game ups your game. Dramatically. And since your literal skin is not a risk for you, and since Flex #3 is absolutely a thing, the skin you put in this game is your money. 

Putting your money into this community gives you a stake in this community, and makes you a more productive and therefore a more beneficial member of this community. And for all you think you may be getting out of this community, you will only get more out of it if you put more into it. Right now, if you aren’t engaging with your entire self, your thoughts, your growth, your praxis, and your money, you are absolutely cheating yourself, in addition to, inarguably, short-changing Lace and neglecting our community partners. The worst part is, cheating yourself of true growth toward reducing and mitigating the harm to Black and brown people caused by white people like you and me… doesn’t just hurt you.

Lace went on: “If you work for fundraising as a professional then you absolutely should have understood what I was saying. You’re going to Webster’s was indeed disingenuous and snarky. You need to own your words.”

Truth to Power: “I do own my words. I didn’t see how the TCL was doing as you said if it is a common model. I was hoping clarification would help me.”

Lace continued, “The fun part about using a model common name notwithstanding, that I use is that I have been vilified for that very used by the Christian left and their agents. In some incredibly shocking and unchristian-like term. Being called a loser and a grifter. Here’s where it turns into yet more appropriation, like the face mask, like doctor barbers weekly sermons that they have yet to definitively say that rev Dr Barber endorses their using. I hope I’ve answered your disingenuous query. Have you anything else?”

There were a few additional tweets in this conversation, but Lace also retweeted Truth to Power’s initial question, captioning it, “Disingenuous sealioning. Tastes like chicken.” This I, Laura, retweeted (yes, Twitter EXHAUSTS me, I’m sorry if this is a bit disjointed), and I captioned it, “Context matters so much. It doesn’t appear that @TheChristianLft promoted their fundraising using sustainer language… until AFTER they watched @laceonrace videos, where we’ve been sustaining for over a year. For which they mocked us. And now…”

Truth to Power responded to me, “It’s interesting that you say context matters. I definitely agree. I asked Lace to clarify one of her points, and I was accused disingenuous sealioning?” [sic]

Welcome, friends, to Flex #4: turning to white people for reinforcement or validation. Now, probably Truth to Power could guess I wasn’t going to be sympathetic. And it was also probably a gotcha laid out for me. But Truth to Power frames what I say as interesting, and definitely agrees. I get their spin, that they asked to clarify one point, and was accused. This framing isn’t dishonest, but to me it seems subtly spun, and reveals none of the flex they inflicted on Lace, and all of the victimhood of being “accused.” I’ll get to that more in a bit.

Laura responds: “Yup. Have I clarified it enough for you now that I’ve provided the context? [Were] you curious, or were you looking for a gotcha? If the first, now you know. If the second… disingenuous sealioning seems fair. So now, what will you do with what you’ve learned? Are you going to be mad at Lace for not expending the effort to educate you on a story you could have dug into yourself if you were really interested?”

Truth to Power: “I can see how it may seem like they learned about it from LOR, but it doesn’t seem like the most likely option given its commonality. I didn’t expect an education, just some clarification. I didn’t learn a ton from asking my question to be honest. Lace seemed to say they were missing the crucial part that she maintains…so that would make it more like most sustainer models in my view.”

Owwww, did you strain something pulling that flex, Truth to Power? Can we call this Flex #5: devaluing what we learn from Black people? There’s still some Flex #2 of being the authority going on, and there’s a LOT of Flex #1, absolute disbelief of Lace’s experience of appropriation as a Black woman. And now, Truth to Power could actually have received some education, but didn’t expect it, didn’t want it, and didn’t learn a ton. And… maybe that’s some of you lurkers, too. Maybe you don’t really expect to learn much, so you don’t try. Maybe sometime, you think, you’ll pop out and ask a question “for clarification”. And if you don’t hear what you want or expect, you’ll shrug, draw back, disengage, and say it’s Lace or your fellow walkers who don’t have much to teach you, rather than admitting that you didn’t really expect to learn, and so you didn’t take away the learning you could have. This is why Robin DiAngelo pulls in five figures for a speaking engagement, and Jim and Kate work in universities and teach racial equity or ethnic studies, or similar topics for more money than their BIPOC counterparts. This is why Lace and other Black leaders and thinkers… don’t. Because when it comes from a Black or brown person, it is worth less to us as white people. Period.

Truth to Power went on: “And no, I won’t be mad. Just a little sad that negative intent is assumed with a question asking for clarification about her meaning within the context of my knowledge on one particular point.” 

Laura: “I hear you. In a sea of bad actors, your intentions weren’t clear enough to distinguish you from them. That can sting. Will you take it to heart and do better in future, or will you feel justified in blaming the person trying to swim instead of the waves they’re struggling in?”

Truth to Power: “I hear what you are saying. I just try to approach most things with an intention towards understanding. I know you are offering a choice here, but inferences about intention should be carefully considered before acted upon.”

BAM. Flex #6: we white people want desperately for our intentions to excuse our impact. I’m sure you saw this coming back when Lace made it overt the way Truth to Power’s comment landed on her. And that was skated right over. Here again Truth to Power presents to me, presumably a fellow white person (my photo was plain, theirs was blank), how they feel that their intention is what deserves careful consideration. More careful consideration than they gave to their impact, popping in with a question for “clarification” that was really disagreement, rather than belief seeking education.

That! That right there. Let’s call that Flex #7: we white people put on masks. Little by little Truth to Power clarified that they had fundraising experience and disputed Lace’s naming what TCL did appropriation. But that’s not what they led with. So disingenuous fits. And we all do it. We all seek plausible deniability of our potential racism, or our known racism. We mask it and ourselves. We mask, maybe, by lurking on Lace on Race, but never showing ourselves, and never talking about it with our friends or family. We expect privacy in our anti-racism work, the same way some TCL folks seemed to, when they sent direct messages to Lace filled with abuse, then became angry when she made their face plain on her page. Because we’re white, we can hide that racism bothers us, or at least, the racism of others bothers us. Black people can’t hide from the racism that bothers them, and can’t hide it from themselves like we can.

Lace picked the conversation back up with a very key question: “Here is a query: why are you more concerned about a term that activated and offended you, than you are about lessening and mitigating harm endured by black and brown people, perpetuated by white people?”

Truth to Power: “I was neither activated nor offended. I knew the term. I had a question.”

Okay, I personally feel that the first sentence is more Flex #7 masking. Just as we white people will deny meaning to anger or rile with our “honest questions” that aren’t, we will absolutely mask when we are activated as a way to minimize the distress our racism may cause us, or the guilt we feel when we’re called on it, which often expresses itself as anger or upset or offence of some sort. But Lace pulls out the nugget here. Truth to Power spent a lot more time disputing that they were seeking anything but clarification, and arguing against the “accusation” of disingenuous sealioning, all the while showing they were being disingenuous, and, by having popped up into the ongoing story to demand clarification on one point, embodying the definition of sealioning. I’m going to talk here about Flex #8: we white people absolutely go to offending from the victim position as a mode of our defense against Black people who upset us, i.e., make us see ourselves without our masks.

Truth to Power, not receiving the reception they expected, but being immediately challenged on their motives for asking, and being met with skepticism that they truly didn’t understand what was being said, never deigned to acknowledge any validity in Lace feeling she had been appropriated from, chose to disbelieve the Black woman talking directly to them, and spent more time complaining at the way they had been treated, even asking me if *I* thought Lace’s characterization was fair, calling Lace’s responses an accusation, even comparing it to a teacher telling off a student for raising their hand and asking a question, putting Lace in the position of authority as teacher even after undermining her fundraising expertise with the flex of being a “professional”.

I’ll tell you a little more that may clear something up. The account for “Truth to Power” as of this morning, had been created in September, had 0 tweets, only replies to Lace and other walkers as part of this conversation, 0 followers, and was following 0 people. There was no profile picture, only the default humanoid emblem. This account was created to engage in this conversation. And the name chosen was “Truth to Power”. 

They cited an episode of the West Wing, said that they had watched it and been motivated to ask the question. Others can maybe fill in more of the story behind that allusion. But, to me, selecting this name, for this interaction, aligns with positioning Lace as a teacher. Lace has Power, and this person is going to bravely speak truth to them. Lace makes this overt: “Regardless of where you locate yourself on the racial or ethnic Spectrum. You are having a conversation with a black woman. And in this Society, you will always have more Social Power and societal Capital than I have.” I see the selection of name, the positioning of Lace as the one in power, and not truth, as a preemptive supposition that this person will end up in a victim position for speaking truth, and thus sees accusation and claims that victim position, even while flexing as an authority and holding the greater social power. They went in already positioning themselves to use Flex #8, primed to offend from the victim position.

You’ll be able to tell from the full screen shots, but I’ve been skipping some, and a few things may be out of order. Still figuring out Twitter. But I want to go back to another brief but telling exchange. 

Lace: “Another genuine question. If you consider what Laura was saying to you about the company that you seemed to keep, can you understand why perhaps I had Shields up? Unless you make a proactive statement that you are not in that cohort, it’s a reasonable assumption that you are.”

Truth to Power: “I can see why you may want to assume my company, but if you’d confirmed, I could have helped. I do understand why your shields are up. The thing is you are operating publicly which is a noble pursuit, but you already know that…”

This is what I want to present as Flex #9: we white people expect Black people, especially black women, to be tough, “strong” and just take our abuse. Lace could have asked about intentions first, so it’s her fault things landed how they did, and she’s the one who lives life out loud, which, as we’ve seen, Truth to Power does not have the courage for. So it is her responsibility, since she’s operating in public, to just take what I have to give, even though I could always have held my volley. I don’t have to be a secondary trauma. I can choose to be a corrective experience. But all too often, I don’t choose anything deliberately, and just assume that whatever trauma I knowingly or unknowingly cause will be absorbed. I will not have to answer it. I can go on my way. I’m white.

At one point, Lace says, straight out, “If this is a genuine query, and you really want to know about why appropriation and Erasure it’s such a huge part of the white white supremacy place out with black people both on an individual and Collective level I am happy to have this conversation.”

Truth to Power responded, “See, I’d give it a go, but you have repeatedly doubted my sincerity which makes it pretty inauthentic for me. You have no reason to trust me or anything, but I just don’t find that kind. My question was very specific to one point you were making. I get the rest overall.”

By now, you can see a whole interweaving of flexes here, but I want to pull out Flex #10: we white people want to end that conversation about racism on our terms. Truth to Power did this multiple times. They asked their one small specific question (sealioning it into the midst of an ongoing story as we’ve seen), and they were answered and done. They had nothing of themselves authentic to give to the discussion. They only wanted one answer, one which they already dismissed even in the asking of the question, and they were done. They even played the most Flex #10 dismissive card, and thanked Lace for responding.

We need to talk for a minute, lurkers, and all walkers. “Isn’t it polite to say ‘Thank you’?” Well… is it? Is it polite when you say it in place of, “Okay, I’m done with this conversation. Stop talking to me now”? Because believe me, we absolutely say it to end a conversation, without being overt and saying we want to end the conversation. It’s part of our white people “nice” that isn’t actually “kind”. And needing time to absorb, I get it. I really do. Needing time to get over being activated, to hold my own hand and manage the slosh in my bucket, all of that can take time. One of the reasons we’re in this space, though, is to practice so it takes less time, becomes reflexive, and we won’t build those muscles if we don’t push them. This is why Lace says we need to proceed with “all deliberate speed”. This is why the internal work is the work, but it needs to be pushed out of our heads and into the real world, so it can be tested for its durability. This is why lurking will never build you those muscles. This is why more than 75% of the people who end a session of walking with Lace or others of us with “thank you, I’ll sit with that and come back” never actually do come back. Their thank you means “good bye, I’m out.” And that is disingenuous, not polite.

I’ve addressed this letter to the lurkers but these flexes are important for all of us here to recognize. We are none of exempt from falling into our habitual use of them without care. And, maybe I hear you say, but at least you’re here at Lace on Race. Surely you do know better, just by being here. Hmmm…

Another tidbit from Truth to Power. It came out earlier in the conversation, but I buried the lead a bit. Truth to Power let us know, “You haven’t asked me how I got here. So, I will volunteer it. I have been a lurker following LOR for over a year. I knew the story. I had a question.”

Lurkers, seldom-engagers, everyone who gives themselves a pass on engaging, or wants a carveout because it’s hard, they’re busy, they have disabilities, take a good long look. I believe you’re at Lace on Race to learn, or you’d never have liked or followed. But how much, or should I say, how little will you actually learn by lurking. This person, who has been at Lace on Race for over a year, and says, “I know you don’t appreciate lurking. I’d say sorry, but it wouldn’t change my behavior,” how much, or how VERY LITTLE have they learned? Flex #11: we white people demand our carveouts.

Now, to be perfectly blunt, Truth to Power wasn’t asking for a carveout. Truth to power gave our space the middle finger, hung around on the fringes for about a year doing so, and cared nothing about the white supremacy that shows. I want to believe that’s anomalous, but all the same, when we don’t do the work and engage per our Community Guidelines, we’re making our own carveouts. And when we make it overt, and make sure to tell Lace that we’ve made a carveout for our individual selves, we are performing Flex #11 at her. We white people want our personal excuses to excuse us. And we absolutely want Lace to absolve us, and we for sure flex for those carveouts and expect her absolution.

We also desperately want to think we don’t have to do the work to be good at the work. Truth to Power was here with us for a year. They didn’t make any headway against performing every flex of whiteness I can think of, though I’m sure Lace has more she’s detected through a lifetime of navigating whiteness with an eye to her safety as a Black woman. All of these flexes have been discussed in one form or another either in posts spanning the past year, or in the pinned posts. There is no excuse for not knowing them all, and being able to avoid them all. But if all you do is read a post and move on, are you really learning from it? If you don’t reflect, and recount your reflections and read and engage with the reflections of others, how much will you retain?

What does it matter, though? It’s not like there’s a test. You aren’t going to get any school of life credit from this that you can leverage into a better GPA and a better degree and better pay. No one’s keeping score, are they? No. There’s no test you’ll be graded on. There is only our North Star of lessening and mitigating the harm done to Black and brown people by white people… BY US. And that is more absolutely critical to our life on this planet, in this country, founded on and steeped in white supremacy, more crucial to our fundamental decency as human beings born into white skin, than any test you will ever take.

Screenshots of the quote exchange follow:


23 responses to “A Letter to Lurkers: The Flexes of Whiteness, and Yes, That Means You”

  1. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    It’s all about the practice, isn’t it? Lace says this over and over and over but somehow, I haven’t heard it in the right way — my own thumbs in my own ears, I know. Going to try hard to practice more this year. Reading your comment as a reminder to myself.

  2. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    I’ve printed out the ones from this article and will add to it as I read further on the site. I can see that I have definite proclivities towards 1, 2, 6, 8, and 11. I do want to reduce the harm I cause to Black and Brown people and so I will try to be particularly vigilant about these flexes.

  3. Christin Spoolstra Avatar
    Christin Spoolstra

    The list of flexes is a great idea! I’ve seen some from some other walkers and have it on my list to make one that’s more personalized to my common flexes. The more I can see myself for who I truly am the more I can change to lessen and mitigate the harm I cause Black and Brown people

  4. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    Sitting with it and wrestling with it made it untangle somewhat. Yes, I probably would have had the flex of “Well, that… seems like a fair question?” and not simply believing what was said. I expect I will have that reaction in the future — I won’t be able to edit it out immediately. But I think now I have some thoughts about what to do when I have that reaction: (1) stop, and remember to believe & (2) if I have questions, do a little research before asking the person who was harmed to respond.

    There is probably more to learn here, so I will return to this and think on it more.

    I’m going to make a list of the flexes to print out and keep nearby so I can practice undoing them.

  5. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    Sorry, there was a typo – should have been ‘Laura says, “Are you going to be mad at Lace…”‘

  6. Christin Spoolstra Avatar
    Christin Spoolstra

    I also find that when I feel discomfort and struggle with a piece it’s an indication that I need to go deeper and learn something key. I’d love to hear your reflections once you’ve gone through it again.

  7. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    This quote seems key, on my second reading — Lace says, “Are you going to be mad at Lace for not expending the effort to educate you on a story you could have dug into yourself if you were really interested?” If someone accuses me of something, and I don’t understand it, maybe I need to dig into it myself before I start asking the person I have just harmed to explain it to me.

  8. Valerie Polichar Avatar
    Valerie Polichar

    This was an interesting read. I find myself struggling with some of it, so that’s an indication that I need to double down and read it/wrestle with it again. I’m trying to learn to listen to my resistance as an indication I need to work harder at understanding.

    The “good intentions” thing is very familiar to me. For years I thought that intentions mattered. But I also thought that I had to defend myself being a “good person.” It has taken a lot of struggling and learning to understand that it’s impact that matters, and that all of us growing up in this racist society carry white supremacism. Excising that is definitely hard work and I know I’m not there yet.

  9. Laura Berwick Avatar
    Laura Berwick

    Steph, I hear what you are saying, and in many spaces, what you describe is absolutely the right approach.

    What does it say, though, that you are defending that approach in a space where you have been explicitly directed, in our guidelines, to engage, and not sit quietly, for any length of time? How do you think that sounds to the Black woman who has given you that direction, in her space? How does that align with learning and respecting the culture of, not any particular group, but THIS group.

    I will tell you, your answer is not unique. It is very common. But here we are new people doing new things in new ways, and this group does not exist to give you information and wisdom, though you’ll definitely find that here!

    Have you read our guidelines? Can you tell me why this group exists?

    I promise you I am not asking any of my questions as scolding, but to invite you and encourage you to go deeper than this in your engagement here. That is our culture.

  10. Steph Avatar
    Steph

    I think there is a difference between lurking and sitting quietly. When I enter a new group, either in person or on-line, I have come for information and wisdom that I don’t already have. I also feel I should learn and respect the culture of the group. So I will sit quietly for a while and learn before I speak up.

  11. Christin Spoolstra Avatar
    Christin Spoolstra

    Hi Lizzie, Just checking in: How are you doing on this commitment?

  12. Lizzie Wheeler Avatar
    Lizzie Wheeler

    These flexes are something I need to keep fresh in my mind. I know I can see myself in them, most obviously and recently the carveout flex as I have been absent from Lace in race for a few weeks. I could give many excuses why I haven’t found the time but really it is a part of me flexing and that needs to do better. Going back through the posts I missed and seeing this one really called me out. I will aim to do better and have more sustained engagement

  13. Shannon Burton Rushworth Avatar
    Shannon Burton Rushworth

    I am replying to this element of your comment, Laura: “our entire society is geared toward WINNING and establishing a higher place in some assumed hierarchy”.

    I think that this is absolutely related to the flexes described above. As I become increasingly aware of the cultural capital I have as a white person, I am also becoming aware that I actively seek to maintain that capital; often through the flexes described above. I went to an elite predominately white girls’ school where we were actively encouraged to always have an argument ready, always have our strategies worked out, always try to win (even in things where there is no “winning” like relationships). We came very close to being explicitly taught these flexes.

    But I am an adult, not a schoolgirl any more, and it is my responsibility that I have chosen to lurk in anti-racism spaces instead of engaging in them. I think I’ve been looking for conversational ammunition to ‘win’ conversations with racists (because that has thus far been my ‘contribution’ to this work – a contribution I’m starting to see no one asked for; and I have of course defined racists as people other than me, but I heard myself in Lace’s phrase about “well read racists”). I avoided the relational work because you win by having honed arguments not through relationships, right? Wrong, obviously.

    Reading Lace’s words in the Vox interview showed me very clearly that I was doing things wrong, and that doing this work badly is worse than not doing it all.

    I am now actively seeking to ‘disarm’ each of these flexes, set aside the spurious goal of winning, and to learn how to relate to people better in order to reduce the harm I cause to black and brown people. That certainly includes Lace, who I will relate to better by following the guidelines and no longer lurking.

  14. Christin Spoolstra Avatar
    Christin Spoolstra

    Why the punch down, Clare?

  15. Clare Avatar
    Clare

    You ought to follow @TitaniaMcGrath on Twitter. You have a great deal in common, and I think her audience would enjoy your work.

  16. Rhonda Eldridge Avatar
    Rhonda Eldridge

    This: “With my LoR toolbox, I’m certainly much better at not doing this, which makes me safer, but it’s something I have to have constantly look out for in myself.” I may be less harmful to brown and black people being aware of these flex points, which I hope makes me generally safer, but I have constantly look out for it in my self. Thanks for helping me articulate this for myself.

  17. Shay Roberts Avatar
    Shay Roberts

    *Cross-posted*
    Here are my internalization of the flexes:
    #1 – The avoidance dance of believing Black people.
    #2 – The credential flex
    #3 – The money flex
    #4 – The white cousin back up flex.
    #5 – The devaluing the education flex
    #6 – The intentions over impact flex
    #7 – The mask flex
    #8 – The offending from the victim position flex
    #9 – The “strong, Black woman” flex
    #10 – The “K, thanks, bye” Flex
    #11 – The carveout flex

    I’ve listed these out to “get it in” as Lace has referenced in a couple of the latest guidelines videos and to return to for future reference. I can locate myself in almost all of these flexes, and the ones I can’t readily think of something, I know there is still something there or the potential for in my future. I already know that I will be spending more time (and have made a note to return to) examining and rooting out flex #8, offending from the victim position. I struggled to fully understand this concept when working through the Terry Real material, and I’m still struggling with it in this post. I know that’s because of a clench, something I don’t want to look at or see in myself, so the solution to that is to keep returning and looking , instead of glossing over and moving on like I want to.

  18. Julie Helwege Avatar
    Julie Helwege

    I own these flexes:
    Flex 1: Don’t Believe Black People
    Flex 2: Credential Up
    Flex 3: Associate Worth to Money
    Flex 4: Seek External Validation from other White People
    Flex 5: Devalue What I Learn from Black People
    Flex 6: Intentions Excuse Impact
    Flex 7: Mask On
    Flex 8: Mask Off – Offend from the Victim Position
    Flex 9: Continued Abuse to “Strong” Black Woman
    Flex 10: Engaging on My Terms Only
    Flex 11: Demanding Carveouts

    I’ve written these down and will keep them front of mind as I continue walking and growing myself.

    Truth to Power had the opportunity to be a corrective experience and instead chose to become a cautionary tale and re-traumatization. I will be a corrective experience.

    I’ve also noticed these flexes are all intersected. I’ve learned how to manipulate one HUGE, MULTI-FACETED FLEX for that tidal wave, violent harm to hold power at all costs and yes, it’s all about me. The collateral damage also ensured I could avoid any conflict or challenge in the future.

    No more.

    I’m identifying, rooting, weeding and unlearning these behaviors every day. I write things down and say them aloud, so I sear them in my noggin. I can’t unsee it now and I won’t.

    I walk in this community to mitigate harm, water my orchard and be held accountable and that includes monthly financial engagement (it’s built into my budget, no excuses).

    Choosing to engage here was one of the best decisions I’ve made in a really long time. It’s allowed me to build muscles and be reliable in a durable way that I’d never imagined before.

    Lurking isn’t courageous; lurking isn’t leaning in and growing in discomfort; lurking doesn’t make you or me safer to BIPOC. Lurking is not in service to our North Star.

    The method and ethos here are intentional – Lace is an incredible leader and knows what she’s doing. This is a cheesy 80’s analogy, but I think about Karate Kid and Mr. Miagi. Wax on/wax off was such a frustration at first, but the method and teaching led to important and durable impacts. So I’m all in for the wax on/wax off and relentlessly reliable walking.

    Note: Cross-posted.

  19. Vicki van den Eikhof Avatar
    Vicki van den Eikhof

    Seeing all these flexes laid out in one post is eye-opening. Numbering them and giving them names. It really helps me understand and recognize all the ways I’ve tried to lift myself up or put others down. And I’ve tried all of them at one time or another. (Right now I’m working on #6, recognizing that my impact is always more consequential and meaningful than my intentions.) Seeing them like this also helps me to make the connections between the relational ethics and the anti-racism aspects of Lace on Race. Reading and engaging here is helping me to recognize the power moves when they happen, and giving me ways to respond to them that help hold both myself and others accountable to living in community.

  20. Laura Berwick Avatar
    Laura Berwick

    Okay, so. Your first point is absolutely old news. You have every right to your stance on this, and it has been thoroughly discussed elsewhere. It’s not really the point of this essay.

    Your second paragraph IS the point of this essay, that white people are so inculcated in white supremacy that the need to display power over in any conversation is seen as a perfectly normal part of discourse. This is what I would challenge you to sit with and interrogate. WHY is it normal in discourse to flex power over? Whether you try to dominate a conversation with reference to your financial positioning, your education, your objectivity, your rightness… as you’ve tried to do in your first paragraph… in wearing a mask, as you do by commenting here with quite a bit on anonymity… why is that normal?

    In my opinion, it’s considered normal because our entire society is geared toward WINNING and establishing a higher place in some assumed hierarchy. We are absolutely NOT taught to engage eye-to-eye, without any punching down or flexing over, the way Lace on Race expects us to do.

    To me your definition of “decent people” seems entirely too broad. If a person can be alienated from racial equity work, and our goal to reduce harm, simply because they find one person who makes them uncomfortable, then they aren’t actually invested in doing that work. They are merely casually interested, and not dedicated, and will be easily swayed away from reducing harm to others by their own comfort or discomfort. I don’t actually consider that “decent” behavior. I consider it selfish, because it is motivated more by self-interest in personal comfort than caring for others who experience, not discomfort, but actual harm. There are many spaces for this work, and Lace has said multiple times that she knows she’s not everyone’s cup of kombucha. This space is fully opt in/opt out. But how durable can a commitment to lessening harm done by white supremacy be if any single post on Lace on Race can shatter it? As white people, it is OUR job to maintain a strong commitment, not the job of Black people to tippy-toe around our eggshell commitments hoping they don’t break them.

    You are quoting the language of mitigating harm to us in a post where you are 1) refusing to believe a Black woman about harm she has experienced, which, if you are white, you are by no means going to be the expert on, 2) calling it a “pity party” when we work to point out the ways white people and white supremacy can cause harm by flexing power over, 3) commenting behind a mask to some extent, rather than through a Facebook profile with your name and photo, or using a full name or an email including your name, and so opting to prioritize your comfort and anonymity over the safety of our space, and 4) continuing a pattern of wanting to undermine the work being done in this space, which you have only engaged in TO undermine. By your own admission on another post, you are not a fully engaged member, you have not worked through the material in the pinned posts, you do not engage per the guidelines, yet you position yourself as an expert on whether or not this space has value (you opine toward not).

    I challenge you to confront how that lands with our members who are Black, Indigenous, or people of color. I challenge you to confront how that lands on Lace, a Black woman. I challenge you to confront that you are causing harm by engaging like this, not eye-to-eye, but top down, as some sort of authority in a space you only lurk in, and through a number of the flexes discussed in the very article you want to refute. You can exhort us to not cause harm, but when you do so in the midst of causing harm, do you see how that rings false? Flexes of white supremacy are real, as you are showing us, and I invite you to step away from them and engage more authentically and reliably here.

  21. Clare Avatar
    Clare

    OK, so “This language of Sustainers is my own” is flatly untrue. That language is widespread, and whether or not they got it from you, you have no more right to complain about someone else using it then whoever you got it from has the right to complain about you.

    The ‘flexes’ described above are all perfectly normal parts of discourse, whether or not BIPOC are involved.

    The fact that outcomes matter applies to Lace on Race as much as anyone else. And If you throw a pity party every time someone questions Lace’s false claim to ownership of some language, or indeed, every time someone calls her out for using a text without attribution, you will alienate decent people. And that increases the harm white people are liable to do to black and brown people. It doesn’t mitigate it.

  22. Christina Sonas Avatar
    Christina Sonas

    [crosspost] This is such a great piece, Laura, outlining many of the casual ways white supremacy can and does exit my mind via my words. A flex I noticed, sort of a super-flex, is the overall act of manipulation — you use the word disingenuous. TTP outright lied from the first statement: “A Google search verified…”, which cannot be true if they are a professional fundraiser (or vice versa). I can picture the same behavior taking place on the African coast in the 15 and 16 and 1700s, and throughout the American continents with indigenous peoples.

    Of course, it’s pretty clear from the new account, created specifically to interact with Lace’s tweet, that they were there with full intention to harm. Not the conditioned white supremacy we walkers are confronting, but an explicit and targeted attack, and one that could have gone much, much differently, horribly, were Lace not so skilled at what she does. Still, the overt manipulation has me examining myself for the same: the desire to own — the modern connotation, which is so clearly linked to the original claim on enslaved people — every interaction with BIPOC through the many Flexes.

    I followed this interaction on Twitter, and I remember exactly where I felt my own strong clench: #6, wanting a presumption of good intentions. It is such a privilege of white supremacy to be able to wander the world assuming people act with a good heart. It only *seems like good heart, because I move through the world in extreme safety. My risk of harm, especially psychoemotional harm, is incredibly low. To mix my colors, whiteness is the ultimate in rose-colored glasses.

    I know you’ve springboarded off TTP’s engagement to speak to LOR lurkers, which is such an overt harm to Lace every minute, but I have to say, I completely disbelieve the veracity of that statement of theirs. Lace speaks regularly of the harm of lurking, and I think TTP pulled that out as deliberately as they did all the other flexes: they went for the jugular for maximum injury. The cold calculation with which they conducted the entire engagement is frightening.

    And yet I can *still locate myself in it. And it’s all the more dangerous, because I make myself adjacent to BIPOC as an antiracist, and therefore have easier access to their vulnerable places. So, as you’ve done with TTP, I will take my behaviors and make them overt. That way, I can better overcome them.

  23. Christin Spoolstra Avatar
    Christin Spoolstra

    Laura, I love that line: “you may be getting all you care about, but whether it’s all you need is another matter”

    And how often do I actually know what I need? But Lace and other bipoc know because they are forced to know me more deeply by necessity of their own safety. So, I must believe. And follow.

    I saw myself most in Flex #7: “Just as we white people will deny meaning to anger or rile with our “honest questions” that aren’t, we will absolutely mask when we are activated as a way to minimize the distress our racism may cause us, or the guilt we feel when we’re called on it, which often expresses itself as anger or upset or offense of some sort.”

    I’m that questioner who wants to refuse the context of my questions, who will look for the exception before lending my belief. I will claim I’m seeking to understand instead of admitting that I’m clenching.

    With my LoR toolbox, I’m certainly much better at not doing this, which makes me safer, but it’s something I have to have constantly look out for in myself.

    No lurking here. I’m here for the prescription, not for my custom order.

    (crossposted)

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